Saab and Boeing team up for T-X... And beyond?

Everybody likes a team-up!
For those of you that have missed it, big news happened the other day.  After a few months of dropping hints and some wild speculation, Boeing and Saab have officially announced that they are forming a joint partnership to develop a contender for the USAF's T-X program.

Both companies could use the boost.  Boeing hasn't had the best of luck selling fighters lately.  Meanwhile, Saab seems to really have trouble locking down Gripen sales.  With T-X numbers expected to run anywhere from 350-1000, it's likely to keep both companies in the fighter 'business for the foreseeable future.

Saab Gripen used for the Empire Test Pilot's School (ETPS)

Surprisingly, Boeing and Saab have announced that their T-X bid will be an all new, "clean sheet" design.  Many, including myself, Guessed that Saab and Boeing would merely offer a stripped down Gripen.  This would have the benefit of offering a proven, low cost design with very little risk involved.  The Gripen is already used for the Empire Test Pilot School in the U.K, so why not offer a similar package for the T-X program?

While developing a Gripen trainer may be the less risky endeavor, it does face a few obstacles.  For one, all the other aircraft in the T-X competition are already based on existing trainers.  While the Gripen has an impressively low cost for a Mach 2 multi-role fighter aircraft, it likely doesn't fair that well compared to purpose built trainers like the BAE Hawk, KAI T-50, and the Alenia Aermacchi M-346.  In effect, the Gripen is likely overkill.

But still, the costs involved with a clean sheet design would likely far exceed that of modifying an existing design, wouldn't it?  My guess is that a Boeing/Saab entry will still be heavily based on the Gripen, with use of the GE 414 engine (used in both the Gripen E/F and the Super Hornet) almost a given.  By going with a "clean sheet" design, Boeing and Saab get to greatly modernize the 25 year old Gripen design, using more economical production methods, etc.  It should also be noted that Boeing considers the F-18E/F Super Hornet as a "all new" design compared to the legacy F/A-18 Hornet.

KAI T-50 Golden Eagle, the main rival.
The obvious target for the Boeing/Saab trainer is the South Korean made KAI T-50 Golden Eagle being marketed by Lockheed Martin.  Already in use as a trainer and light multi-role fighter, the T-50 has impressive performance (capable of Mach 1.5).  It also has the considerable might of Lockheed Martin's marketing team behind it.  Also worth considering is considerable political consideration, as S. Korea recently announced the purchase of 40 F-35s, a definite boost to the JSF program.

In comparison, the Alenia Aermacchi M-346 offers similar performance, but without the political or marketing clout (Alenia Aermacchi is already heavily involved in the JSF program).  The BAE Hawk, while currently in use by the USN, is a relatively old design that cannot fly supersonic.

Both Boeing and Saab have a definite axe to grind with Lockheed Martin.  Both have seen promising sales dashed away by the juggernaut that is the Joint Strike Fighter program, and neither are likely to pull any punches in the upcoming T-X competition.

Boeing T-X concept.

There may be another reason for Saab and Boeing's "all new" design decision...  It could offer the opportunity to come up with a true competitor for the F-35 in the fighter marketplace.  The JSF's standout selling feature is that it truly is "the only 5th generation multirole fighter" available.  This is absolutely true.  Even upcoming designs like the PAK FA and J-20 appear to be strictly air-superiority 5th generation fighters, while the J-31 is still a huge unknown.

Boeing and Saab can use this opportunity to develop a true "5th generation fighter trainer", incorporating 5th generation features into an affordable, reliable platform.  This makes sense in the context of the T-X program, which demands a trainer suitable for transition into fighters like the F-22, F-35, and future aircraft.

A scale model of Saab's Generic Future Fighter "GFF" concept (look familiar?)...  Could this be the shape of things to come?
Of course...  Once you have a "5th generation trainer", it's not that much of a stretch to offer a "militarized" version.  Of the contenders for the T-X program, all of them have combat capable variants.  This could be Boeing and Saab's way of entering the 5th generation fighter business, by offering a low-cost option that some have been asking for.

Along with modernizing the Gripen into the Gripen NG, as well as studying a carrier capable "Sea Gripen", Saab has been working on a "Generic Future Fighter" (GFF) concept.  The GFF is meant to be a low cost platform with internal weapon carriage, supercruise, and stealth capabilities, making it a true 5th generation design.

Could Boeing and Saab's "clean sheet design" for the T-X competition look like Saab's GFF?  Could it be Saab and Boeing's way of providing a truly affordable "5th generation" fighter design?

This could be interesting.


  1. This will be extremely important for Boeing and their last chance to stay in the fighter business as their F-15/F-18 production lines are closing down.
    Super Hornet orders are also slowing down and Silent Eagle has so far failed to receive any orders (and the Dreamliner doesn't do too well either)

    They will not mess this up, and they will deliver a effective, affordable and sustainable system as their very survival depends on it

    Lock-Mart has dominated this area the last decades, but through simple greed they have seriously screwed up their chances to effectively kill off the competition completely, and it is very easy to assume that the DoD likes to see some alternatives for future projects.

    Due to the extremely high cost to fly F-22s/F-35s, it is also easy to see those birds getting more slack time in the future while their pilots home and keep up their skills by continuing to fly the SAAB/Boeing T-X and heavily rely on their own simulators.

    Another clear opening is to replace the aging F-16/F-15 fleet of the ANG (as pointed out by Mr. Sweetman.) if SAAB/Boeing only can put some plausible teeths in their T-X.

  2. Well, I'm not worrying for Boeing : with the likely loss of fighter aircraft activities, it would only remain the roughly $50 billion dollars/year commercial airplanes/airlifters/fuel tankers production and also satellites, rockets, military helicopters, missiles, etc.

    About 787, don't be so sure : despite technical difficulties, 787 program reached this year the 100th delivered plane and the 1000th ordered...


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