tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post4000785148282641902..comments2023-07-11T09:57:54.828-03:00Comments on BEST FIGHTER FOR CANADA: Fighter Jet Fight Club: Typhoon vs. Gripen!Doug Allenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-56625069292023309312014-07-26T18:52:33.981-03:002014-07-26T18:52:33.981-03:00Interdependence leads to peace. But independence b...Interdependence leads to peace. But independence builds security. I for one want to encourage domestic production and acquisition of knowhow.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-22229717113157997022014-07-23T21:33:35.621-03:002014-07-23T21:33:35.621-03:00The way things are going the Sea Gripen or Rafale ...The way things are going the Sea Gripen or Rafale will be on the decks of the HMS Elizabeth.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-86890276660876506632014-07-22T13:02:10.731-03:002014-07-22T13:02:10.731-03:00Much harder to bomb fuel and ammo inside a mountai...Much harder to bomb fuel and ammo inside a mountain than an air field out in the open.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-61455787202287078722014-07-22T12:59:02.769-03:002014-07-22T12:59:02.769-03:00It's important to note that it would not be Sa...It's important to note that it would not be Saab but the Swedish state that would sell the fighters. FXM and Saab has deemed the Danish competition unfair and biased towards F-35 why Gripen is now not in the Danish "competition".Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-10757220797541861112014-07-22T09:53:40.074-03:002014-07-22T09:53:40.074-03:00I know the specs, thanks. I know the specs, thanks. Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-20130943562430124562014-07-22T09:48:50.979-03:002014-07-22T09:48:50.979-03:00Mig 21 Performance
Maximum speed: 2,175 km/h (1351...Mig 21 Performance<br />Maximum speed: 2,175 km/h (1351.48 mph)<br />Maximum speed: Mach 2.0<br />Range: (internal fuel) 1,210 km (751 miles)<br />Service ceiling: 17,800 m (58,400 ft)<br />Rate of climb: 225 m/s (44,280 ft/min)<br />Armament<br />1x internal 23 mm GSh-23 cannon, plus<br />2x R-27R1 or R-27T or 4x Vympel R-77Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-15249068799877812792014-07-22T09:27:49.473-03:002014-07-22T09:27:49.473-03:00Fair enough..Fair enough..Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-85398953050212822602014-07-22T09:25:45.793-03:002014-07-22T09:25:45.793-03:00Two aircraft from the 60'sTwo aircraft from the 60'sDoug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-35082849608017448412014-07-22T04:24:20.662-03:002014-07-22T04:24:20.662-03:00The Swedish answer was a polite answer to say that...The Swedish answer was a polite answer to say that they think it is a bogus set up, as the rules is different for LM and the others. For instance LM does not need to create work opportunities in Denmark as the others, so it is a bit strange that the others did not withdraw also.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-88373227546111407962014-07-21T21:53:59.233-03:002014-07-21T21:53:59.233-03:00I just read the article. Does Saab want to sell j...I just read the article. Does Saab want to sell jets or not? They get there nose out of joint here and now there, good luck!Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-32871128431633111382014-07-21T21:46:10.344-03:002014-07-21T21:46:10.344-03:00The Danes and Canada seam to walk hand in hand on ...The Danes and Canada seam to walk hand in hand on some military purchases. Do you have a link to this news?Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-47679734744947088642014-07-21T21:42:51.671-03:002014-07-21T21:42:51.671-03:00Ya, sorry I meant to say they won't be competi...Ya, sorry I meant to say they won't be competing against each other for the Danish contract......lolDoug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-64509410335137660862014-07-21T19:39:04.057-03:002014-07-21T19:39:04.057-03:00Looks like the Gripen is out in Denmark. Wow, if t...Looks like the Gripen is out in Denmark. Wow, if there was any nation that I thought was a no brainier for the Gripen it was the Danes. Seems like the fix is in, this is sad news.......Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-15647981388772977472014-07-21T16:55:44.681-03:002014-07-21T16:55:44.681-03:00Swedish export authorities refused to offer Gripen...Swedish export authorities refused to offer Gripen E to Denmark.<br /><br /><br />Chief of the export authority (Försvarsexportmyndigheten FXM) Ulf Hammarström in a letter to Denmark:<br />”Let me first of all express our gratitude that you have invited the Gripen system as a potential candidate for the next new fighter system in Denmark. I would also like to thank you for a good and open dialogue during the process. <br /><br />We have, however, after internal deliberations also including our industry, concluded that we choose not to answer your request for binding information (RBI April 10, 2014). <br /><br />I once again thank you for having invited us and wish you a successful conclusion of your acquisition process.” <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.fmn.dk/nyheder/Pages/Forsvarsministeriet-har-modtaget-svar-fra-kampflykandidaterne.aspxDoug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-53305771892264805242014-07-21T15:19:58.997-03:002014-07-21T15:19:58.997-03:00Did Doug not ask us to stay focused on the Gripen ...Did Doug not ask us to stay focused on the Gripen and the Eurofighter?Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-27163120647439678692014-07-21T10:07:16.529-03:002014-07-21T10:07:16.529-03:00A true multirrol can fight other fighters even loa...A true multirrol can fight other fighters even loaded with bombs as the F-18 demonstrated in Irak, shooting down two e MIGs 21 and completing their bombing mission. If there is no air defences or enemy fighters you can flight straight and high, if not, better to have a maneauverable and capable multirrol even when fully loaded.<br /><br />http://youtu.be/XEm75grzVNgDoug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-27820622112867805862014-07-21T09:19:16.452-03:002014-07-21T09:19:16.452-03:00Then so has your fuel, ammo, and lunch. It is a go...Then so has your fuel, ammo, and lunch. It is a good selling point that you can land on a road close to the base if your runway has been destroyed.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-39951840482508115822014-07-21T09:15:03.078-03:002014-07-21T09:15:03.078-03:00Yes we have Bombardier and Viking, but are the Ind...Yes we have Bombardier and Viking, but are the India's getting a good deal by taking on production? There has to be a cost for a company to give up building an airplane in there plant and giving it to someone else.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-14027730863248422332014-07-21T06:39:05.457-03:002014-07-21T06:39:05.457-03:00That video has nothing to do with air shows or the...That video has nothing to do with air shows or the beautiful Rafale video. Conceptually it has absolutely zero to do with any air show video and I encourage you to think about why. A clue: consider why the different flights where made. What were their purpose? Outcome? Other parameters? et cetera.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-33393036452637947002014-07-21T06:32:28.835-03:002014-07-21T06:32:28.835-03:00I didn't see the irony with the IR. Irony is h...I didn't see the irony with the IR. Irony is hard to get across in text. Perhaps your entire post was ironic? This didn't come across. If you are ironic I would advice you to state this, otherwise we will have lots of tedious misunderstandings. <br /><br /><br />I looks to me as if you had some sour grapes because the Rafale's impressive flying and then you had to make a completely unnecessary negative remark.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-74028209168340740332014-07-21T06:27:59.146-03:002014-07-21T06:27:59.146-03:00That's right - a heavy fighter manoeuvres bett...That's right - a heavy fighter manoeuvres better with load than a light fighter. The Typhoon is impressive because its a medium weight while still beating heavier class airframes like F15C and F18E in manoeuvring. <br /><br /><br />Personally I think its a shame that they waste a good air show by making the planes less hot. Still, nothing beats the Rafale in terms of load capability. <br /><br /><br />The point I've been trying to get across to Kjell is that air shows demonstrate aspects out out of context and these demonstrations become more or less meaningless. What, exactly, does the videos you linked to show? They show two two airplanes at an air show. <br />How do you think the F18E or Rafale operated over Libya during a strike mission? Lots of heavy manoeuvring? No. High altitude to target, drop bombs, go back.<br /><br /><br />Thrust vectoring is another of these things very popular on air shows. People on the internet post links to for example the F22 performing some acrobatics, then they go on to a forum to show these air show tricks as some sort of proof for F22 superiority. Few understand that F22 thrust vectoring is there to help fuel economy during super cruise, not dog fight manoeuvres. You want to maintain your energy during a fight, and thrust vectoring, high alpha, and cobra are very high risk things that result in high loss of energy. <br /><br /><br />Yet we get people who see these videos go on forums and "omg! look at this video, this plane must be the best" without understanding context.Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-13198178464887043302014-07-21T03:35:55.700-03:002014-07-21T03:35:55.700-03:00Some interesting stuff about Gripen like the EW an...Some interesting stuff about Gripen like the EW and the continued development pictures. As the page is in French maybe some Canadians can read it direcly otherwise use Google translate http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/tag/achat+gripenDoug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-2175294461327510652014-07-20T21:53:20.707-03:002014-07-20T21:53:20.707-03:00Because your airfield has been bombed to smitheree...Because your airfield has been bombed to smithereens. Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-50523341493513349872014-07-20T19:37:02.337-03:002014-07-20T19:37:02.337-03:00I can't find any single demo of the Rafale or ...I can't find any single demo of the Rafale or Gripen with bombs and missiles like the Super Hornet or Euro fighter regularly do.<br /><br />youtu.be/q4CX-XTNz2A<br /><br /> http://youtu.be/Vw85PoAgUsUDoug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384856123558926763.post-69672824882368571162014-07-20T19:19:10.945-03:002014-07-20T19:19:10.945-03:00Landing on some road is nice and by the way the Ho...Landing on some road is nice and by the way the Hornet has done the same thing, but unless there is someone there to refuel you what is the point. I guess emergency landings. To re arm the fighter you have to have and ammo dump near by, bring it in by Hurcules( on the same road). Or by truck( if there is a road and if they can get there.)Doug Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.com